Wednesday, June 13, 2012

Divided Vance shows Morrison's challenge

Incoming Superintendent Heath Morrison may be charismatic, energetic and eager to listen,  but the round of principal changes announced this week shows just how difficult his job will be.

Consider the transfer of Vance High principal Valarie Williams to Whitewater Middle School.  There were reports of Vance faculty cheering the announcement and sending celebratory tweets.  Those who don't like Williams will likely view the decision to move her and other principals as a sign that Morrison is bold and decisive  (interim Superintendent Hugh Hattabaugh's name will be on all moves made before Morrison starts,  but as you'd expect,  CMS says Morrison is consulting on the changes and interviewing new principals).  By making the changes now,  rather than waiting until after he starts work July 1,  he allows more time for principals to settle into their new jobs before school starts Aug. 27.

But there are also Vance parents like Brian Broomfield,  who has worked with Williams to improve the school and views her transfer as "a slap in the face" to involved parents.  Who,  he wants to know,  was Morrison listening to when he signed off on such a move?

Former Superintendent Peter Gorman brought Williams, who was principal of Cochrane Middle School,  to Vance in February 2010 as a "strategic staffing" principal.  Her mission was to create a stronger faculty  --  that included the right to "displace" a handful of existing teachers and recruit new ones  --  and bump up academic results by the end of three years, which would have been 2013.

Broomfield says those changes predictably created some hard feelings on the faculty.  But he says Williams had Vance on the right track,  with everything from parent clean-up days to a mentoring program for fatherless young men to a football program that rallied community pride.  This year's test scores and graduation rates,  which haven't been released to the public,  will show gains,  he said.

"We have come so far along.  We have a partnership that's been established,"  Broomfield says.  "Now we're back to square one."

Morrison says improving staff morale and rebuilding public trust are his top priorities for his entry plan.  He's coming back to Charlotte for a few days starting Friday,  and he's bound to face tough questions from people like Broomfield.  Moving a principal without listening to the parents who worked with her is "a bad start for a trust factor,"  he says.

In every Charlotte appearance so far,  Morrison has talked about the importance of listening and clear communication.  But staff changes have always posed challenges when it comes to openness.  Can a superintendent let parents and teachers know when he's questioning whether a principal is right for the job?  Can he explain a decision that's of legitimate public interest without violating the rights and dignity of someone who has tackled a very difficult job?  Or will Morrison end up where so many superintendents before him have, with some variation of  "Can't talk; it's a personnel matter. Trust me and let's move on"?

We'll soon see.

87 comments:

Anonymous said...

Seems like you could have interviewed more than one person for this article. Perhaps a faculty member who did not believe Dr. Williams had a positive effect on Vance? It would have been easy to find one. Or fifty.

Anonymous said...

I am a staff member at Vance and there were hardly any cheers! She is a great leader who weeded out TERRIBLE TEACHERS WHO DID NOTHING FOR OUR STUDENTS! Talk to the kids!

Anonymous said...

Definitely a one-sided article. If you're going to talk to the supporters, talk to the ones who didn't believe in what Williams tried to do at the school. As the original poster said, it would have been extremely easy. How simple it is to write an article that displays your own beliefs when you only present one side. We call that bias...ever heard of it in your journalism world?

Anonymous said...

I am a parent and I owe her everything for helping my son to graduate! She is tough, but loves her students!

Anonymous said...

I am a teacher at Whitewater Middle School who is now going to be getting Dr. Williams. Can anyone tell me what we can expect when we return in August?

Ann Doss Helms said...

The point isn't to establish whether Williams was a good principal or not; even getting 50 pro and con opinions wouldn't do that. The point is that virtually every decision like this makes some people happy and others furious, and that it's perfectly reasonable for folks who care about the school to want an explanation. But it's also difficult to give one. I'm curious to see how Morrison handles this, and hear more about how he selects and judges principals in general. It may be the most crucial thing he does.

BTW I don't know Valarie Williams and have no personal opinion about her performance.

Anonymous said...

I think Morrison is going to find that building or rebuilding staff morale and restoring community trust are not one and the same. CMS has an awfully whiney staff. And, a lot of them are not very good at what they do.

Anonymous said...

I tend to go with anonymous at 1:53. But it won't really matter what he does; he won't be here very long if he can go elsewhere. There is no hope for CMS...unless it is to break it up into 3 districts. The cultures are simmply too different; it is as about as likely to succeed as the merger of two companies with entirely different cultures. We've seen locally how that works out.

Anonymous said...

Ann, Do you honestly think CMS is proactive enough to have Morrison involved in personel decisions prior to being employed? If so I think anyone of those involved would have a nice little invasion of privacy check coming from CMS. I dont know the people who are involved good/bad or indifferent as far as their work. His contract does not start until 7-1-12 I beleive so he should not have decision making authority until that time. Keith W. Hurley

Anonymous said...

This post will be filled with opinions...I am a staff member and point blank... our scores will show what impact she had on vance. People complain about every thing and this was no different. The fact is all of our scores improved and any teacher who is at Vance to teach...loves Dr. Williams... Any teacher who is there for a pay check hate her! She has gotten a bad rep due to not being afraid to call out my lazy coworkers! She will go to Whitewater...be talked about, but do what she always does... Change that culture.

Anonymous said...

If she is going to change the culture at Whitewater, then she can't come in fast enough. As long as she holds the students accountable for their behavior and allows the teachers to teach, then she will be welcome. The best thing she can do at Whitewater is to lead by example.

Anonymous said...

2:04 - You can expect to join one of the associations: CTA or NCAE. Cover Your A.. buddy, you're gonna need it.

Anonymous said...

Teachers who were there before Dr. Williams can tell you - there was no need for a "culture change." Sad what she did to our school and even worse that the kids suffered for it. Good riddance. I'm sorry for those of you at Whitewater.

Wiley Coyote said...

....and in 3 to 5 years we'll be making "bold and decisive" changes again with another superintendent.

There were reports of Vance faculty cheering the announcement and sending celebratory tweets.

...and we wonder where kids get that mentality from. It borders on bullying, wouldn't you say?

Rev. Mike said...

Keith, I can't speak to the legalities of what you say above, but I CAN say that I was involved in the interview and selection of a different principal. Dr. Morrison was involved in the interview of that individual. Personally, I think your concern is misplaced. If there's one thing that motivates CMS in any and all circumstances, it's "First, don't get sued."

Anonymous said...

If the teachers don't like her, that says it all for me. I'm a supporter.

Anonymous said...

As long as Williams is fair and tough on discipline we will be able to accept her.

Anonymous said...

when you are a leader you will not be liked by people who resent change due to being comfortable. My son was at Vance when cauthen was there and vance had many problems but many were hid. Many teachers loved him but scores and graduation rate was in the 60s. Our new principal has faced a lot of unwarranted scrutiny... Why...because she has made people uncomfortable. I am appalled that you teachers speak so highly of a past principal who got into a physical confrontation with a student, but trash your current principal who is really making a difference!

Anonymous said...

Run for the hills!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Anon 4:22 Did you actually WORK under Dr. Williams? Maybe there is a good reason why there is so much resentment and so much happiness at her departure.

Anonymous said...

You must have been one she liked....

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Anonymous said...

Good luck on that

Anonymous said...

I know that's right!

Anonymous said...

Couldn't put it better myself

Anonymous said...

Actually I did at Cochrane and it was a shame they took her there. so I am speaking from experience!

Anonymous said...

Yep cause I love kids!

Anonymous said...

You say that now...lol

Anonymous said...

If you don't do what's right by students, then you should join!

Anonymous said...

Cause it wasn't @ Vance

Anonymous said...

Or cause you were tha one always her office sucking up

lisa said...
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Ann Doss Helms said...

Folks, I deleted one comment that got into allegations against a former principal. I don't have details on what happened and don't want to get into anything unfair or inaccurate, so let's not go there. Overall, I think there's value in hearing the varying views from people who have first-hand experience. But again, please remember we're talking about a real person, so please be candid but civil.

Anonymous said...

What? It was at Vance ..he was "liked" though! So it was the kid's fault not the adult who lost his cool. I remember that article! You people ought to be ashamed to turn this into a popularity contest.... can somebody please show me some data from this year! That will solve it all.... Come on vance teachers..prove your point with data!

Anonymous said...

Morrison's decision was bold and decisive. To contradict one of Muri ang Gorman's top selections is to say that he is his own man. Trying to consider how a few teachers, who belong to Williams' sorority, and a couple of parents, who think her ghetto style is endearing, feel as compared to the overwhelming evidence that she is a bad principal and even worse human being, is a no brainer. There was a lot of money and reputation invested in the strategic staffing initiative. For Morrison (and Hattabaugh and, probably, Clark) to pull the plug on Williams suggests Morrison might be alright afterall.

Anonymous said...

Do you know the data from this past year?

Anonymous said...

Everyone should know that any improvements that happen at Vance this year should be attributed to the new API who was sent in there to help her out, Timisha Barnes-Jones. This lady is a dynamo who should have her own school instead of continuously being asked to clean up somebody else's mess. This is a clear case of what is being done to good assistant principals with experience, making them work for inexperienced and incompetent new leaders for new schools. Make Mrs. Barnes-Jones principal of Vance and see what a difference she makes. I would work for her anywhere because her standards are high, she expects excellence but she doesn't bully and degrade people. She values them as human beings!

Anonymous said...

Data please

Anonymous said...

Get your writing skills polished up Ann, Vance has just now gone through a switch and I predict that another school will be next and this one will be located in Huntersville. I don't know the Principal and have never met her, however every single teacher that I had contact with told me that Vance was out of control. When teachers, other students and visiting members of the community say things like this then there may be a slight problem.

Anonymous said...

With the comments on this board by parents and non-parents now wonder CMS is losing teachers! CMS and anyone associated with it certainly deserves what they're getting!

Anonymous said...

Why would it be necessary to talk to patents before displacing a principal? They should talk to teachers. I feel confident that almost any teacher, or faculty member in general, at Vance (myself being one of them) would express feelings of gratitude about this move. Honestly, I just feel bad for the teachers at Whitewater. In my opinion, Dr. Williams is a methodic bully who will manipulate and control situations in order to get the outcome she wants, regardless of who it affects.

Anonymous said...

CMS is like an irresponsible indoor cat owner. Instead of cleaning out the litter box by removing the you-know-what, he merely shakes it up.

Anonymous said...

Dr. Williams will support a parent 10 times over before she supports any teacher!

Anonymous said...

Hahhahaha bullying?! Dr. Williams is a GREAT model for that!

Anonymous said...

Barnes-Jones is a mediocre administrator. It wouldn't make difference if she was, in fact, great. A school is successful or not successful based on the teachers and their collective sense of efficacy. the only thing an admin can do is encourage or stifle their success. In Dr. Williams' case, she worked against the staff and made them feel terrible.

Anonymous said...

AMEN!!!!

Anonymous said...

I Was A Student When Both Cauthen && Williams Were Principal. I Personally Loved Cauthen Versus Williams...She Didn't Care About Us Like Cauthen Did Granted He Was More On The Faculty Side He Still Listened To Us && ACTUALLY CARED!!!!

Anonymous said...

Barnes-Jones is not the answer at any school. She is not ready to be a leader... she doesn't have the skills. Her sorority leanings would get in the way. CMS should do the right thing for once...admit their mistake and call Cauthen and beg him to come back. Look at the condition of the football field at Vance...it is deplorable. Private folks spent big money and time and for what? Williams was horrible...feel bad for Whitwater...

Anonymous said...

Vance had the highest crime rate of any school last year alone!!!Yeah, did a great job!

Anonymous said...

It is much more complicated than most folks realize.

First to Strategic Staffing. This special Gorman endorsed "new is better" activity is but another example that this guy was and is/was no different than many in upper management. This "new" initiative is/was complete eltorro poopoo. Gorman, like many upper echelon educators failed when it come to their understanding of change and how change works. This lack of change process understanding is and will continue to be the demise of mos education reform. Change that comes from top down orders does not work. Change in a school is a slow process that involves conversations from all of the participants. This means teachers, parents and students. Strategic Staffing does not work and will never work.

Second, a change agent needs to understand people. In the school environment, there are four groups that need understanding. There are students, parents and teachers. Then there is CMS administration. An understanding off all of these is vital to school success. It is not just about what is best for students. Sometimes it is about what might be best for teachers like supporting them. If you are only about the kids, you might loose the teachers which it sounds like Williams has done. Loose the teachers and they undermine you.

CMS and Morrison will continue to have school based administrative
turnover. Some say as many as 15 more coming in the next few months involving principals and many more assistant principals will be moved to new schools. They will continue to have problems because they don't understand how change works.

Ann Doss Helms said...

OK, let's put this one on the table: I keep seeing references to sorority connections, on this and other blogs and CMS stories. Is there any reason that (African American) sorority connections are any more inappropriate than the many ways that men and white folks have networked for generations?

Wiley Coyote said...

What do sorority connections have to do with anything?

Ohhh...you mean like... the Broad "Sorority"?

Anonymous said...

Rev Mike- CMS is certainly in violation of privacy laws if they open their employee files to a non-employed person. Is pretty simple its invasion of privacy. Its a law and keeps lawyers in business. Multiple millions of dollars and claims are filed and collected vs CMS annually. We just had one a few months back for intimidating a teacher to quit for around $1mm. I would disagree with you that CMS covers liable upfront. Keith W. Hurley

Bill Stevens said...

Ann, "any more inappropriate"? I would hope as a society we have risen above that, understanding the injustices such arrangements usually lead to.

But as you listen to the rhetoric of this subculture, the stench of revenge is strong and unyielding.

Truth Seeker said...

Positive change in schools is slow and methodical as staff work to sustain gains. Not sure what was happening at Vance but 2 years is not enough time to make huge gains, especially with all the budget and staffing cuts in the past years

Bill Stevens said...

Truth Seeker, I just want to be sure everyone understands that CMS has not had a budget cut in the total budget ever, ever, ever.

Anonymous said...

As an employee at Vance, I can say that there were a lot of cagey things going on to raise test scores to try and make Dr. Williams look good. Most of it was the posting of grades that students really did not earn. If you want the truth, the graduation rate should really not go up if things were done legally. But being that students were given grades that never attended class and consequently they did not have to make up seat time, either (it was all waived no matter whether all the absences were unexcused or not). Dr. Williams was a nonvisable principal. A lot of the students did not know who she was, because she was held up in her office 24-7. The discipline was out of control. Students did whatever they wanted and were extremely disrespectful to the staff and we got no support from the principal. She always stood up for the student. Vance needed this change for the morale of the staff and also to try and get back some of the discipline with the students. I am a firm believer that you can't have learning without discipline, and these students were not disciplined.

Rev. Mike said...

"Rev Mike- CMS is certainly in violation of privacy laws if they open their employee files to a non-employed person. Is pretty simple its invasion of privacy."

Keith, again, neither of us are lawyers. I'm certainly not going to sing the praises of the HR folks at CMS and how they do administrator interviews (egad, what a cluster!), but I doubt that most aspiring principals, heck, ANY aspiring manager for that matter, would have serious objections to interviewing with someone who will be the boss in just a couple of months anyway. I've been in a few jobs in which I interviewed with someone, and then the person I ended up actually working for was not the person with whom I interviewed ... not always a good situation because the interview cuts both ways.

Anonymous said...

Guys after reading these post, I am disappointed. I don't know this lady, but I am sure she has a family. Society is too quick to throw stones in order to hurt someone. The fact is she is moving on to another school ...let it go people. We love to tear someone down in order to build ourselves up. Good luck to Vance and good luck to Whitewater.

Anonymous said...

Well said 9:20!

Anonymous said...

She is going to another school because she had a contract through 2013 and the district does not want to be involved with litigation. Same reason why Dr. Ellis is still around. Hopefully she will move on to greener pastures when her contract ends.

Anonymous said...

@ 9:00 I am an employee at Vance and I couldn't agree with you more. My main concern is the fact that the graduation rate was boosted up through this recovery program where if students failed a course, they took a recovery course and did not have to pass the test that was required for all of the other passing students but got credit for the course. Whats scary is that this may be going on in all of the other CMS High Schools in order to make it look like the graduation rate increased across the board.

Anonymous said...

I would like to say that teachers at Vance should really be ashame. All the negative speaks volume of the environment that this lady had to work under. If it was that bad at what point do you as a teacher leave. If you are a good teacher you would have been picked up by another county since seems CMS allows anything to happen. Seems like teachers want it all there way.

Anonymous said...

ANN

For heavens sake! "THE" communications department does not know where an administative head has gone?

Please not only audit the communications department, but also human resources!

No Justice
No Peace

Follow the Money

Anonymous said...

Who are you to pass such judgement? I am a teacher at Vance and Dr. Williams is the one who created the negative environment that WE had to work in.

Anonymous said...

As a teacher at Vance I am embarrassed by the comments of some of my colleagues on this board. I would not want to work at any other high school and I hate how Vance is portrayed publicly. I agree that we have discipline issues and Dr. Williams had not yet earned the respect of each and every faculty member, but we should all be working at this school for a reason: to give our students a great education. If you're not happy at Vance, then you should probably find a school that would suit you better. Vance is improving, (the data will show it), and I think it is because Dr. Williams has brought in a great administrative support team and we have some great teachers. Vance will not improve, however, if its own staff, along with the community, continues to perpetuate a bad reputation that infiltrates the learning environment.

Anonymous said...

I have no dog in the fight, but I am a retired teacher and I sub for many schools in CMS. I get calls from Vance every now and again, but I never took a job there due to the what I had seen on the news. One day I decided to see if the rumors were true and took a sub job at Vance... I must say I came in with a warped judgement of that school. The kids behaved 10 times better than some of the other prominate schools. The staff was very helpful and I decided to add Vance to my job rotation for good! I am saying all of this to say... You guys have a really good school, but you are painting a picture of disfunction in order to "hurt" your former principal. I was there the last day of school when she shared your EOC scores and by the sound of the cheers, they were very good! agree to disagree, but stop painting that negative picture because again many people like myself tend to believe everything that we hear or read!

Anonymous said...

Thank you 4:34 for the last post...I am up getting ready for my summer job trying to see what a so called Vance teacher has said next. The more I think about it.... Were there staff members who liked Dr. Williams...yes. Were there staff members who disliked Dr. Williams...yes. That happens on EVERY job. We had a mutual respect for each other because of our students! Our staff work tireless hours to make sure our students succeed. Because of that love that we have for our students, there is no way any of my co-workers are posting comments to tear down what we are working so hard to build. Anonymous can be anyone! Lol. Maybe some previous teachers or some rival schools, but not the loving teachers that I work with! Vance rocks and so do we!

PS... Anonymous (lol)

Anonymous said...

Thanks for bringing this issue back to focus... I am a Vance teacher ( maybe) lol. We love our kids and our school. Vance rocks!

Anonymous said...

This is to parents of any school that is getting a recycled principal who has been demoted. You need to organize the minute the demotion is announced and sign petitions and refuse to accept this same old nonsense at your school. This is the same behavior pattern as churches passing off one parish's problems on the next when the real answer is firing. And it will continue, to the detriment of students,teachers and APs who all become their new victims.

Anonymous said...

Rev. Mike- I have sent the data to 2 larger districts top chiefs in NY. Both say it certanly violates privacy concerns. I have shown the data and story to 3 employment attorneys who practice in North Carolina. All 3 in favor of " clear invasion of privacy from employer". Its simple you cannot show cards to someone not in the game. I would be furious if I were one of these principals. And again I dont know any of them involved nor do my kids go to their schools. I just dont think their privacies should be invaded.

Anonymous said...

As a homeowner in the Whitewater area, I'm getting a little antsy. Whitewater is a feeder school to West Meck. Since we are in District 1 I would hope our high school would be in District 1, but it's not. If we are ever going to help West Meck lose it's negative image, we have to start at the feeder schools. West Meck was a force in this city years ago. It needs to be again. There is much development going on near the Whitewater Center. Lots of new homes and neighborhoods in the $200K range. No one wants those neighborhoods to lose value and a bad school will do just that. So those of you without a kid in school, but still are homeowners, need to realize by helping these schools succeed, you are helping your investment in your home increase.
I hope this principal is not as bad as I am hearing. The little country area in the county now has the kids from the inner loop attending school out here due to closures at Pawtuckett, Wilson, Spaugh, etc. These kids needs discipline and to respect education and see it as a vehicle to better circumstances, not as a babysitting service.
I for one am going to bring this up at our next HOA meeting, that we start volunteering at the Whitewater elementary and middle schools. We can't sit back and let these two beautiful brand new schools become just more 'west side schools'. As a graduate of Harding, I get tired of the negative connotations that phrase has. 'West side schools' used to mean strong, working class values and good, moral families. That's why we chose to live out near the Whitewater Center. It reminded us of what it was like when I was growing up. Nice homes, nice families, quiet. In order to protect the investment we have made as homeowners in this area, we need to step up and help the students and the schools succeed.

Wiley Coyote said...

9:23, get used to the rhetoric.

My son graduated from West Meck last year and had no problems there as a student. The only issues we had as parents was with one counselor, one teacher and one principal, who is no longer there. He also attended Paw Creek and Coulwood.

My wife graduated from West Meck back in the early 80's.

Crosland was supposed to develop the land around Whitewater with over 2,000 homes, but due to the economy tanking, the project was shelved.

Whitewater school was built in anticipation of students from those projects. That's why the school was underutilized. As a side note, the County and Whitewater Center developers promised all sorts of shopping and hotels out there too, which also never materialized.

West Meck always gets labeled as "inner city", yet it lies just within the city limits and isn't that far from the county line. You and I both live in the 'burbs.

West Meck is no different than other schools. They have really good teachers and some that are not. Same with admin.

You just have to keep your eyes and ears open, stay informed and don't take any unwarranted crap, from admin or teachers.

Anonymous said...

I have read the many postings on this page and WHEW!

I was a teacher at Vance and observed first-hand the actions of Dr. Williams. She was placed in a no-win situation from the onset. When she was introduced as the incoming principal, (making her the 3rd Principal at Vance in 7 months) the teachers were basically told that we weren't effectively performing our jobs and that the school was in a mess. The facts that EOC scores had been continuously improving and that serious student discipline infractions were minimal obviously had not been reviewed. After the first 2-3 weeks of Dr. Williams' arrival at Vance, she was NOT "highly visible" which is a characteristic of an effective building administrator. Several students thought that one of the APs who had come with her was the "new" principal. If the current climate was so good at Vance then why: 1) has there been such a high staff (teacher, support, and administrative) turnover rate during the past two years; 2) has there been a high on-campus student arrest rate; and 3) has Vance been designated, by the NCDPI due tobased on reported student disciplinary actions, as one of the most dangerous high schools in North Carolina -- NOT just CMS, BUT statewide? One poster suggested to "talk to the kids". I have and every time I asked one how things were at Vance, s/he told me that it was "bad, REAL bad!".

I have also read all of the comments and one thought comes to mind -- Everyone, BOE members, parents, and community citizens, are experts on education because they all experienced education. They all went to school and they all know how to "fix" the woes of education. Nevermind that few, if any of these people, have been trained in education or the process of learning. I have a hard time accepting a doctor, lawyer, or banker telling me how to do my job. I think that the next time I go to the doctor's office, I'll just "treat" the patients in the waiting room!

Anonymous said...

Folks, leading a school is not hard. Unless you have no idea what leadership actually is...and overwhelmingly, principals get their advanced degree in administration and the one thing missing from that educational program (and MBA programs as well to be frank) is a course (or courses) on LEADERSHIP. And so our "esteemed" higher educational institutions keep kranking out KPI-goobers and task managers who don't know the first thing about what leadership actually entails. People are not metrics - and leading people has nothing to do with micro managing to spreadsheets full of metrics. A truly great leader could be put in ANY school and without ever looking at the metrics deliver improved staff and student performance. The problem is when people hear that it goes completely against conventional "wisdom", most people don't understand it bc it's not what is taught (even though it IS what works).

BolynMcClung said...
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BolynMcClung said...

LEADERSHIP is …..

…How well a person converts the instructions he receives to the ones he gives you.

What makes this work is when you realize a big part of your job is to make your boss look good to his boss.

That’s the way I see it.

Bolyn McClung
Pineville

Anonymous said...

Bolyn- Please if your going to chime in make sense of it. At your age with all that BBQ knowledge do you not have more inside that head of yours?

Wiley Coyote said...

Anon 3:05...

Let me translate for you:

多么恰当人转换指示他接受到他给您的那个。

什么做这工作是您体会您的工作的一个大部分是使您的上司看起来好到他的上司。

BolynMcClung said...
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BolynMcClung said...

WC: Thanks for the translation and it's a point well made.

If two people aren't speaking the same language, neither is happy.

The biggest problem in CMS, maybe the only one, is that a lot of children don't enter K or 1st grade prepared to communicate with teachers.

Bolyn McClung
Pineville

Anonymous said...

Bolyn - What do you not get about making sense ? I think you have been brain washed by too many CMS meetings. Dont drink the Kool Aid your smarter than that.

Anonymous said...

WC- exactly my point..................&.............. from PINVILL!

Wiley Coyote said...

I got Bolyn's point...

Bill Stevens said...

3:33 Bolyn's point. Not only do the children not come to school prepared to interact with a teacher and other students, but the baby mama so long absent in raising this child, now comes screaming into the school telling the teacher and staff how to raise the child.

Anonymous said...

Our schools are a microcosm of our society. Thus, the problems at Vance (or any other CMS school for that matter) cannot and should not be placed squarely on one person.

Is Dr. Williams perfect? No.

But are any of us? We all need to take a long look in the mirror before we start casting blame on one person.

Principals at tough schools are placed in situations where they cannot win. The average "stay" for a Principal at a school like Vance, Garinger, West Meck, etc is about 3 years. Look it up. Sure, you can find examples of longer stints, but the Principals at the tough schools know that they are walking into a battle they can't win.

Truth be told, none of us has an answer. If we did, the issues that plague our schools wouldn't continue to fester every year.

I was in the meeting the other day when this announcement was made. I didn't hear any "cheers"...maybe a few under-the-breath comments by a few people, but nothing loud.

What I do remember (and what has not been mentioned) is the mile-long line of teachers who waited patiently to hug Dr. Williams and to wish her well. That is an important piece of the puzzle that is missing from this discussion.

Could Dr. Williams have done more? Yes. We all could.

Was she perfect? No.

But neither are the rest of us.

-A Vance Teacher

Truth Seeker said...

I agree with 10:44. Principals of tough schools should not shoulder all the responsibiity for success or lack of success. Too many people have to accept their part in the equation, especially CMS and zone officials. They leave employees high and dry too much of the time when there are issues but are quick to claim ownership of the successes.